— How Big is the So-Called U.S. "National" Debt...? UPDATED April, 2025

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It is 239,000 miles from earth to the moon (x 5,280 feet/mile x 12 inches/foot) = 15,143,000,000 (rounded off) inches from earth to the moon.

12 (non-silver) Eisenhower $1 dollar coins have an artificially assigned value of $12 and a stack of 12 of these coins = 1 inch in height.

[I specify non-silver dollars, because any truly silver dollar coins are no longer in circulation, the large type that were used in the 70s, the Eisenhower dollars were not silver (no formerly silver, nickle, or copper coins unless before 1964 have the appropriate, legally established value of those metals). Our corrupt politicians have stolen the silver, copper, nickle, and zinc out of billions of tons of U.S. coins and given us painted lead in its place. Where has all that wealth gone...? If you notice, the edges on what were once more valuable coins, dimes, quarters, half-dollars, and dollar coins, were reeded, or had grooves or ridges on the edges. That was because they were once silver and those reeds or flutes were designed to prevent dishonest people from shaving down the edges of the coins to steal the silver dust,* devaluing the coin; though such coins are still reeded, it is merely for show and the average young person does not have a clue why those ridges are there, and the average person who knows why they are there are deceived into thinking those ridges still have purpose; which they do not; the only purpose is to deceive people into thinking that the coins still have value, which they do not. They have taken all of the precious metals out to the point that it actually costs them more to produce the coin than the face value of the coin itself.

* It is truly amazing the amount of work dishonest people will engage in, for such little real profit; if they only applied themselves to honest industry, they would be far wealthier. But as Scripture says, the wicked are like the troubled sea that cannot rest, but have to stir up filth.

Regardless, I specify non-silver, because it is not the silver value I am using, but merely that thickness of coin, about the thickness of a nickle; it takes about 13 nickles to comprise an inch of space in height; or about 12 Eisenhower dollar coins.]

Thus it takes $181.176 billion or 181.176 billion Eisenhower dollar coins to reach the moon.

15,143,000,000 inches x 12 coins/inch = 181,716,000,000 coins or dollars (per 15,143,000,000 inches)
the U.S. (so-called) “National” debt (at the time that this was written in mid-2015, of course, is like the Energizer Bunny from Hell, “it keeps growing and growing and growing...”

= $18.125 trillion.

[If the debt was truly that of the people, that would be $57,000 for every single person in the U.S., regardless of age, health, or financial status, based upon 318 million in the U.S.; but of course, that would be a false statistic, because the debt does not belong to the nation or the people as a whole, but only politicians, those on welfare, businesses that have been bailed out or received government contracts or tax breaks, individuals who have filed for bankruptcy, state, county, or city officials who have “spent” all the money in their annual budget rather than underspending and having a surplus (so that the federal money they receive the next year will not be decreased), those who have received subsidies, and any charity, business, special interest group, or foreign nation who has received any money from the government (except a loan, if it was paid back with interest to account for the devaluation of the dollar via inflation over time).]

If stacked in nonsilver $1 coins like Eisenhower dollars, the number of coins equal to the so-called U.S. National debt would reach to the moon 99.75 times! Thus, 99.75 separate stacks would reach to the moon... or it would reach a distance 99.75 times farther than the distance to the moon (actually, by the time it took me to calculate this, due to the corrupt government’s rate of spending and the corrupt interest on the so-called* national debt, it probably now reaches to the moon 100 times now).

[* I call it the “so-called” national debt, because the corrupt politicians were never authorized to mis-spend even 1 penny of taxpayer money, the only legitimate use of taxpayer money is for services to those very same taxpayers themselves, for services that they want and need but are unable to provide for themselves individually (such as the nation’s highways, public transportation, etc.). Any other use of taxpayer money is a criminal act and those government servants who dole it out and those who receive it are the only ones who own any percentage of the debt (welfare, special interest groups, giving the money to foreign nations, bloated salaries and benefits to government employees / politicians / public servants, unconstitutional wars, importation of foreigners and putting them on a breeding program, humanitarian aid to other nations, mis-spending for building projects, planting flowers along highways, etc.—many of these things may be worthwhile, but they are the venue of private charity and private industry or private individuals and they are not lawful expenditures of taxpayer money). Thus, it is not a “National” debt, but it is the politicians’ debt and the debt of the wards of the state or others who have received this money. All that needs be done is check the voting record to see which politician voted to illegally spend what amount of taxpayer money on unconstitutional usages, and that % of the so-called national debt is the debt of those politicians and their families (and descendents) and anyone who ever received those government funds (“consulting fees”, grants, subsidies, welfare, special interest groups, etc.). However, in reality, nothing was loaned so nothing needs to be repaid. If all you loan me are digits on a computer screen, an ink notation on a ledger sheet, or a piece of paper with an artificially printed value on it, that is all I owe. If you loaned me an ounce of gold, well then, I owe you an ounce of gold in return. The debt can easily be paid off. Give the international bankers $100 trillion worth of computer digits, give them $1 quadrillion. Let them spend them to their heart’s content. Give them a $1 quintillion bill backed by nothing. Fair play is fair play. One good deed deserves another. You reap what you sow.]

Anyone who has ever stacked coins to count them knows that like dominoes, stacking coins can be precarious. Does anyone care to be nearby a 100 stacks of dollar coins that reach to the moon...? What goes up must come down. What does that say for the hopes of our economy...? Any president who says that he can improve the situation is a liar—especially when he doubled the imaginary debt. The U.S. “National” debt is a myth; an illusion... a lie; it is their debt, not ours; their solutions (spending more money and continuing to claim it is our debt) are tantamount to a fireman saying, “the fire is not out yet—quick, throw some more gasoline on it! maybe that will put it out...” In any area of the private sector, what politicians do would be considered High Crimes—Felonies, and Treason. They are. They are criminals. As long as people continue to enter their myth and illusion with them, they will be prisoners in that delusion, but they are prisoners by their own choice, their own chosen ignorance and immorality in consenting that the illusion is reality.

Compounding fraud and deception is the very notion of “dollar” itself. Dollar is a measurement. You cannot have a measurement of itself, a measurement is that of something else. I cannot ask you to give me an ounce or a gallon, but only an ounce or a gallon of something real (like flour, sugar, or gasoline). The dollar used to be, and is Constitutionally mandated to be an ounce of gold or silver. However, the corrupt politicians took us off the gold standard (Fort Knox is full of painted lead) and our money is an ounce of nothing: it is backed by nothing. Further they have stolen all of the silver, copper, nickle, zinc, and other precious metals that used to be in our coins in circulation, and they all thunk like lead fishing sinkers when you plunk them down on the counter, whereas, they used to ringle and jingle with life and musical sound. So as the dead coinage, so as the dead economy. Hundreds of millions of tons of all that precious metal has been outright stolen from our coinage. Where did it all go? Who authorithized it? It is Grand Larceny and Treason. What then is the “dollar” a dollar of...? since it is backed by nothing? since it is merely paper that the “government” counterfeits whenever it wants more...? Well, clearly, it is not a dollar of silver or gold; clearly it is a dollar of debt! The debt of the politicians and all their accomplices, before and after the fact.

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UPDATED Information

Now in May 2022, with the so-called “National” debt near $30.5 trillion, it would require 168.34 stacks of Eisenhower dollar coins to the moon.

Please tell me How is a nation that is $32 trillion in debt (which will probably be the total by the end of 2022) a “wealthy” nation...? —and the people of the U.S. have $16 trillion of personal debt and $23 trillion of corporate debt = $81 trillion in total debt; and this would require 447 stacks of Eisenhower dollar coins to the moon.

Now, in February of 2025 the so-called “National” debt is $36.5 TRILLION, and thus, would require 201.5 stacks of Eisenhower dollars to the Moon.

HOWEVER, personal / household debt is now $18.04 TRILLION;

one source said the total public debt is now $29 TRILLION (though that does not agree with the current $18.04 TRILLION of personal debt and the previous $23 TRILLION of corporate debt, since corporate debt should have also increased, and not decreased; though I did find another source that said total U.S. corporate debt is $12.4 TRILLION)...

and I have just learned that there is also an “Intergovernmental” debt of $7.32 TRILLION; which another source said was $12.1 in 2023.

However, though it seems it is based upon 2024 data,

https://budgetmodel.wharton.upenn.edu/issues/2025/1/27/complete-measure…(%2426.2,or%20340%25%20of%202023%20GDP.

wrote:

“Focusing only on explicit debt is misleading due to significant underfunding of OASDHI programs. Adding explicit debt ($26.2 trillion) and implicit obligations ($65.7 trillion) brings total federal indebtedness to $91.9 trillion, or 340% of 2023 GDP. Extending tax and spending projections to cover all current and future generations, the infinite horizon fiscal imbalance is $162.7 trillion, or 6.6% of the present value of all future GDP.”

Thus, if we update that $91.9 trillion with a conservative 2025 adjustment to $94 TRILLION and add the total combined personal / private / household and business corporate debt of $29 TRILLION, we reach $123 TRILLION; which would require 679 stacks of Eisenhower dollars from Earth to the Moon.

The U.S. has the largest total debt of any nation on Earth. HOW is that a “wealthy” nation...?

And Reuters wrote, “Zoom out, and US debt picture isn’t so scary”. YES, CLOSE YOUR EYES and pretend that it doesn’t exist.

Furthermore, $1 in 2022 is worth 1.09 cents (or $ 0.0109) compared to $1 in 1910, because corrupt, treasonous, criminal politicians continue to countefeit money (printing money that is backed by nothing is counterfeiting—even if the “government” does it). In 1910—actually from 1918 back to recorded history in 1833 gold hardly every fluctuated from $18.93 to $18.99 / ounce, but we will call it $19.00 to make it easier—gold was $19.00 / oz. Thus, $100 in 1910 is now equivalent to $10,019.00 or $1.00 in 1910 is the equivalent to $109.19 today. This means that the corrupt politicians have robbed the people of 98.01% of the value of everything they own (on which they are unconstitutionally taxed multiple times) or 980% inflation.

Gold hit its highest in March 8, 2022 of $2,074.60 / oz. We shall use that figure, because truly gold can never drop in price once it has risen (and if it appears to drop, it is only because the price is artificially manipulated to give the false appearance of prosperity: for if the people of the U.S. and the world realized that the dollar is worthless, the global economy would collapse). The only way that gold can drop at all, but let us, for clarity consider gold dropping back to 1918 value, the only way that gold can drop back to $19.00 / oz. is if the “government” BURNED $32 trillion and did not print any more; and if they recalled the 1.385 billion* tons of worthless coin.

[* In 2021, nearly 15 billion pennies, quarters, nickels, dimes and half dollars departed the U.S. Mint’s facilities to be put into circulation. There is about $48.5 billion worth of coins in circulation. Let us say that the weight of a nickle* is the average weight of all this currency, and a nickle weighs 5 grams (and there are 28 grams in an ounce). It takes 20 nickles to equal $1, so that is 100 grams per $1. Thus, $48.5 billion = 5.41 million tons of coin.*

* If my math conceptualization is wrong, someone please correct me. $48.5 billion x 100 (g. per $1) ÷ 28 (grams per oz.) ÷ 16 (oz. per lb.) ÷ 2,000 (lbs. per ton) = 5,412,946.43 tons.

Our coin used to contain silver, copper, zinc, and nickle. Dimes, quarters, half dollars, and dollars were minted in 90% silver until 1964. Half-dollar coins from 1965 and 1970 were 40% silver; but 1971 and after contain no silver. Most all coinage today are nearly worthless. Coins don’t even jingle like they used to, but sound dead. They are. What happened to that 5.41 million tons of precious and semi-precious metals?

* The nickle now costs more to coin than it is worth; in 2022 it cost .0852 cents to produce each .05 cent nickle coin. In March of 2022 the nickle actually became worth more than a dime...! when nickle, which had been $25,000 / metric top, shot up to $100,000 / metric ton (and copper is now about $10,000 a metric ton). A nickle a nickel is now composed of only 25% (1.25 g., thus 12.5 cents of) nickel and 75% (3.75g., thus 3.75 cents of) copper; and thus, 1 nickle is worth about 16 cents in metal. In 1982, the penny (which weighs 2.5g.) was denuded to only 5% copper and 95% zinc; today 2.5% copper plating and a 97.5% zinc base. Before 1982 a penny was 95% copper. Dimes (which weigh 2.268g.) after 1964 are 75% copper and 25% nickel alloy, bonded to a pure copper core as is the quarter (which weighs 5.670 grams).

--It is also interesting to note, since the average person is completely ignorant of it, that there used to be 2 types of $500 dollar bills in circulation, 2 types of $1,000 bills, 1 type of $5,000 bills, 2 types of $10,000 bills, and 1 type of $100,000 bills in circulation in the U.S., which the Federal Reserve stopped issuing in 1969 (though last printed in 1945). Quite interestingly, the $100,000 bill (with Grover Cleveland’s portrait) is a gold certificate bill, and for some “odd” reason, it is declared to be “illegal” for even a coin collector to own one. Why would that be...? Because it says on it “payable in demand in gold”. It seems that this would legally mean according to the face value of gold at the time the bill was printed or last issued. In 1945 gold was $34.71 / oz. and in 1969 gold was $41.28 / oz. Thus, in comparison to 1945, one $100,000 bill in 1969 would have been worth $118,928.26 and today in February 2025 gold is around $3,000, and thus one $100,000 gold certificate U.S. bill would be worth $8,643,042.35.

Furthermore, in 1910 one ounce of gold was worth $18.92, today in February 2025 an ounce of gold is around $3,000; which is an increase of 158.56% (or, in reality, a DECREASE of 158.56% of the value of the U.S. dollar). Thus, the “dollar” of today is worth .006 cents of what the dollar in 1910 was worth; which means that the corrupt politicians (who think that they are the “government”, which they are not) have robbed us of 99.994 % of all our wealth — and yet continue to raise taxes, invent new taxes, unconstitutionally tax us on what we own, continue to borrow, allow aliens and alien nations to purchase real estate in the U.S. and U.S. businesses, allow our major (and now all other) cities to be stolen from us. This is HIGH TREASON and GENOCIDE.]

See my book: The Liberty Document: The National Debt: Does It Exist & If So Who Owes It? & Some Thoughts On The Hidden Agenda Behind Immigration, Gun Control & The Health sCARE Monopoly (2020); Full of statistics, common law citations, court rulings, clear thought, powerful info.; 350pp., pb., 20.00 + P&H. See also my book: The Other Side (1991 / 2008 / 2022 second revised / expanded edition) 3 in-depth examinations: 1: False Prophets of Peace: Is Communism Really Dying?; 2: Public School Education in America Today: Programmed to Fail Through Educational Warfare; 3: Who’s In Charge, Who’s To Blame?: The Crises Facing America and Christendom Today; and 2 smaller articles; 648pp., 6x9 pb., 32.50 + P&H detailed comparison of older and current statistics crime, prisons, immigration, police and military, powerful quotes and information exposing education, false religion, and a corrupt socialist government, thoughts and philosophy on freedom, Constitutional and Common Law, etc. Illustrated.

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